Thursday, April 18, 2019

Now What's Fair

I been recent looking and reading about BASIC INCOME and I have one main question. How do they figure the amount to be given to a person or house hold, that it doesn't enable them. I would guess depending on countries plays in RESULT
Before I move on with my thoughts on Universal Basic Income here link for the negative and positive side of a UBI

Believe that some people would benefit from a UBI. My three main issues with it would be how much one would receive with out enabling. No strings attach, and the amount.

I believe most people has good intention when they set up safety net programs here in United States but the bureaucracy actual hinder a person growth and or put them in trap of poverty.

Might as well toss an amount out of what an amount should be $1,960 a month per person. Some place this would be a great income and other place not. So where it not so great there state would could  make up the difference.
Question time...Where you live what would be a fair UBI check? 

Then there would be no more things as snap, disability, unemployment and such. All income should be subject for taxes and taxes will be brought up possible the 25th of April or some time in May.

As for string attach or no strings to an UBI. I would say no attachment to the UBI. But either by a doctor reasoning and or by the courts the person incapable of handling there affairs. One needs someone to mange there affairs.

I understand some place the UBI been a real blessing and other not. Not sure the reason why this is. But there will all ways will be those who can't or won't mange there life with common sense. As I see here in United States we first need to work on our medical before and UBI. My main reason I would be for an UBI it would give people more choice and cut back on bureaucracy.
Last little thought on UBI it for all not just those who fall in poverty or low income.

Coffee is on

19 comments:

  1. Here we have reasonable social security payments for most people, although it has become very low for the unemployed. I would rather pay my tax to support even the laziest person who sponges on our system than have them starve or begging in the street.

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  2. They introduced it for a few months in our province then changed government and they stopped it.

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  3. Very popular in Northern Europe. Pity the richest country in the world doesn’t care about its most vulnerable citizens.

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  4. They say that most people seem to do well on it. But who knows? I don't know why we worry about "enabling" people. Some people will never contribute to society. Make it so they don't destroy things.

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    1. You have a good question is why we worry about enabling people

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  5. I don't know what would be a fair UBI and I think universal, that is world-wide, wouldn't work. National basic income would be better because all countries have different prices for different things, for instance in your country, the cost of petrol for cars and the electricity for homes, is cheaper than in other countries, like mine where we have the highest electricity prices in the world. (That's what our newspapers tell us) and petrol for cars is very expensive. Other things we have might be cheaper and in third world countries I wouldn't have a clue about what things cost compared to what money they receive if they get any at all.

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  6. Let's just say between my social security and small pension I receive enough to just live on...and I am listed below poverty level. Never thought I would see this day.

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    1. I have a few years before I retire and for me there no jet set life once I retire

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    2. I am listed below poverty level also, but I'm doing alright because my rent is reasonable in subsidised housing and I don't smoke or drink and don't have a car.

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  7. I agree with what Andrew said Dora, most working Australians are happy enough to pay an amount of tax depending on their earnings, also putting some away for their retirement.

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  8. In addition to basic incomes, something else that needs to be added to equations is the GINI Co-efficient which measures inequality within a society. I think the larger the range between rich and poor, the less happy those on the poorer side of the spectrum will be rather than just physically and socially uncomfortable.

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    1. GINI coefficent does sound interesting.

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  9. It's a thorny question. Here in Montana, you can only stay on welfare for a few months. The whole time you're on it, they make you come in for classes on how to do interviews and prove that you are actively looking for work. At least, that's how it worked for my son.

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    1. Last I heard here in Idaho one can only be on welfare for 24 months.

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